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	<title>Comments on: On Semantics: Forget Marriage, We Want Civil Union for All</title>
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		<title>By: Straight for Civil Union</title>
		<link>http://thegayrecluse.com/2008/11/13/on-semantics-forget-marriage-we-want-civil-union-for-all/#comment-2349</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here here! I have been saying this for years. I don&#039;t know why someone hasn&#039;t brought this to the supreme court, because clearly using the word &quot;marriage&quot; in our legal documents is a violation of the separation of church and state. I just happen to be opposite-sex oriented and in a committed relationship and would much prefer to get a civil union if I could! Now how do we make it happen? Is there a group lobbying for this??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here here! I have been saying this for years. I don&#8217;t know why someone hasn&#8217;t brought this to the supreme court, because clearly using the word &#8220;marriage&#8221; in our legal documents is a violation of the separation of church and state. I just happen to be opposite-sex oriented and in a committed relationship and would much prefer to get a civil union if I could! Now how do we make it happen? Is there a group lobbying for this??</p>
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		<title>By: James van Maanen</title>
		<link>http://thegayrecluse.com/2008/11/13/on-semantics-forget-marriage-we-want-civil-union-for-all/#comment-2143</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James van Maanen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well reasoned and well said. Let&#039;s hope....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well reasoned and well said. Let&#8217;s hope&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gay Recluse</title>
		<link>http://thegayrecluse.com/2008/11/13/on-semantics-forget-marriage-we-want-civil-union-for-all/#comment-2140</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gay Recluse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comment, YNYF. Just today I&#039;ve been noticing that a lot of folks seem to have shifted away from &quot;marriage&quot; and toward &quot;equality&quot; arguments, so obviously a lot more people are getting this, now. Let&#039;s hope it pays off!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, YNYF. Just today I&#8217;ve been noticing that a lot of folks seem to have shifted away from &#8220;marriage&#8221; and toward &#8220;equality&#8221; arguments, so obviously a lot more people are getting this, now. Let&#8217;s hope it pays off!</p>
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		<title>By: Your New York Friend</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Your New York Friend]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very, very much agreed. I wish more people would understand how the semantics of the words &quot;marriage&quot; is making the fight for equality more difficult for us. European countries with same-sex unions (and even ones that don&#039;t) operate in a similar fashion. Everyone gets civil unions as far as the law is concerned and a marriage is something that a church may or may not do if they choose to recognize the relationship. Everyone has the same rights, the churches feel like they&#039;re not being forced to change their traditions and everyone wins. Instead, we waste time arguing over a word that doesn&#039;t even have a universally understood definition so naturally we continue to spin our wheels.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very, very much agreed. I wish more people would understand how the semantics of the words &#8220;marriage&#8221; is making the fight for equality more difficult for us. European countries with same-sex unions (and even ones that don&#8217;t) operate in a similar fashion. Everyone gets civil unions as far as the law is concerned and a marriage is something that a church may or may not do if they choose to recognize the relationship. Everyone has the same rights, the churches feel like they&#8217;re not being forced to change their traditions and everyone wins. Instead, we waste time arguing over a word that doesn&#8217;t even have a universally understood definition so naturally we continue to spin our wheels.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ditto: hence Civillywedd.com Good luck to us all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto: hence Civillywedd.com Good luck to us all.</p>
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