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	<title>Comments on: On Proposition 8: Vote No and Retain Some Shred of Humanity, Vote Yes and Feel the Monstrous Ooze Running Through Your Veins</title>
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		<title>By: The Gay Recluse</title>
		<link>http://thegayrecluse.com/2008/10/28/on-proposition-8-vote-no-and-retain-some-shred-of-humanity-vote-yes-and-feel-the-monstrous-ooze-running-through-your-veins/#comment-2070</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gay Recluse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s an interesting point, John -- thanks for sharing. I&#039;m not sure I would agree that you owe the country &quot;nothing&quot; but perhaps a discrimination discount would be in order?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an interesting point, John &#8212; thanks for sharing. I&#8217;m not sure I would agree that you owe the country &#8220;nothing&#8221; but perhaps a discrimination discount would be in order?</p>
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		<title>By: johnbisceglia</title>
		<link>http://thegayrecluse.com/2008/10/28/on-proposition-8-vote-no-and-retain-some-shred-of-humanity-vote-yes-and-feel-the-monstrous-ooze-running-through-your-veins/#comment-2069</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I sincerely hope PROP 8 fails miserably.

BUT - if it DOES passes, is everyone prepared to spend another ba-zillion dollars on PR and possibly wait 20-30 years to &quot;win&quot; equality in CA?   

AND - if it does NOT pass, which state will we focus on next so we can spend another ba-zillion dollars to purchase civil rights?

I know I am virtually alone here (except for Charles Merrill and his partner), but I think all of you are insane.  Truly crazy....one step away from writing-on-the-wall-with-your-feces crazy.   

Because if ALL of us truly believed we WERE equal, we would not be so patient as tax-payers and U.S. citizens.  We&#039;d simply KNOW we ARE equal, and refuse to pay into a system that not only denies our familes civil marriage but doesn&#039;t even acknowledge our existence (wait for the 2010 census).

I&#039;m 43, and I will NOT wait until I&#039;m 73 for fair and equal treatment.   It&#039;s OK for the country at large to be ignorant, bigoted, mid-guided, and mid-informed.   But that&#039;s not my fault.   So until people GROW UP and show my family the same &quot;civil&quot; respect heterosexually-identified families are given, I owe this country and the IRS nothing.  

How many times do I need to say this?

TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION AIN&#039;T GWANNA HAPPEN!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sincerely hope PROP 8 fails miserably.</p>
<p>BUT &#8211; if it DOES passes, is everyone prepared to spend another ba-zillion dollars on PR and possibly wait 20-30 years to &#8220;win&#8221; equality in CA?   </p>
<p>AND &#8211; if it does NOT pass, which state will we focus on next so we can spend another ba-zillion dollars to purchase civil rights?</p>
<p>I know I am virtually alone here (except for Charles Merrill and his partner), but I think all of you are insane.  Truly crazy&#8230;.one step away from writing-on-the-wall-with-your-feces crazy.   </p>
<p>Because if ALL of us truly believed we WERE equal, we would not be so patient as tax-payers and U.S. citizens.  We&#8217;d simply KNOW we ARE equal, and refuse to pay into a system that not only denies our familes civil marriage but doesn&#8217;t even acknowledge our existence (wait for the 2010 census).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 43, and I will NOT wait until I&#8217;m 73 for fair and equal treatment.   It&#8217;s OK for the country at large to be ignorant, bigoted, mid-guided, and mid-informed.   But that&#8217;s not my fault.   So until people GROW UP and show my family the same &#8220;civil&#8221; respect heterosexually-identified families are given, I owe this country and the IRS nothing.  </p>
<p>How many times do I need to say this?</p>
<p>TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION AIN&#8217;T GWANNA HAPPEN!</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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